Friday, January 16, 2009

Fisher 400 Paper Question

Hi,

I was wondering if any group members whom have previously worked with this brand of paper could answer some questions. I ordered a long roll of it (nearly $85.00 worth) from England. I finally decided to unroll it and measure/cut a piece to attach to my drawing board, this morning. I've run into some challenges.
  1. It picks up hand marks easily..too easily. What would be the best way to erase these marks?
  2. How on earth are you attaching it to your drawing board? Drafting tape, thumbtacks, finishing nails etc? I tried thumbtacks and tape- they aren't taking.
  3. I notice that if bubbles in the center too. Are there remedies for this issue?
Any advice would be appreciated. I have a feeling that this first piece is going to end up in the scrap pile. :-/ Thanks in advance.

10 comments:

hbedrosian said...

Hi Chantell,

I've only used Fisher a couple of times, but I didn't notice any bubbles... anyway, to get rid of the curling I gently rolled it in the opposite direction. I didn't tape it to my drawing board, just placed it there. My biggest challenge was getting it out of the cardboard mailing tube - I ended up peeling it away bit by bit until the paper was free! Nicole probably has more advice...

Chantell Van Erbe said...

I know, Holly. Getting that roll out of the tube was so time consuming.
In attempting to tape the piece of Fisher paper to my drawing board, I noticed the center bubbles out and I can foresee lots of aggravation during the drawing process. I'll try rolling it the opposite way. Thank you for your advice.

Chantell Van Erbe said...

Holly, One more thing I should have mentioned is that I prefer to work with the paper facing me. My drawing table is standing perpendicular to the floor, hence the reason for taping followed by bubbling. I'm not sure how your table is situated.

Nicole Caulfield said...

hmmm I'm not sure what the bubbles are? Could you take a quick photo?

I just use tape, but it can come off! I usually tape the paper to the wall for days to get it to lie flatter before I begin working on it.

I work flat and then push pin it to the wall every once in a while and at the end of the day to get a good vertical look at it.

As far as the smudgies - I just use sticky tack. If you are evenually covering the whole pper it should be ok if you don't get it all off. What pencils are you using?

Chantell Van Erbe said...

Hi Nicole,

For lack of a better word, I wrote that the paper bubbles. A more fitting description would be that the center of the paper sags or bows out when taped to the board. But good news- I took Holly's suggestion of curling the paper in the opposite direction and then your suggestion of taping up the paper. I left it up overnight. I couldn't wait and removed it this morning. It did the trick! Now the paper's sitting perfectly flat on my drawing table! I rolled up 6 small piece of white sticky tack and fastened them to the back of paper and pressed it onto the board for extra insurance. Plus I cleaned up all the marks with more tack.

Now, I must say to you, Nicole that I am ruined and it is all your fault -for turning me on to this stuff. Why? Because I just wanted to test a small corner of the Fisher 400 to see how it would react to my pencils (I'm using Coloursofts, Polys, Prisma and Luminance). I cannot believe how quickly the pencil covers on this paper. I'm going to have to rethink my plan for this painting because I can tell that many layers won't be necessary. I seems as though I can still work in my usual manner re: pencil strokes (elliptical) but will have to lighten up on hand pressure. I see myself using this a lot. Here I thought that I loved my pastel board. And don't get me started with the Luminance pencils. On Fisher paper you can work light over dark with the white and bismuth yellow..how is this possible?

I'm going to get started on a piece ASAP and will chronicle the results on camera. Thank you, Holly and thank you, Nicole for being so helpful as well as never ceasing to explore.

José said...

Hi Chantell,

Mary Herbert(Herb) is an UK artist who specializes in pastel portraits.
On her site you can find a link where she reviews several pastel papers, including the Fisher 400.
Click on Insight to read about the tests.
I like Colourfix and recently have tried Pastelmat which I also found ok. Sometimes I use velour from Hanehmuhle (sp?).
Nonetheless my favourite continues to be Colourfix.

Kind regards,

José

Chantell Van Erbe said...

Thank you, Jose'. I'll check out her blog ASAP.

Eilene said...

Where can you get the Fisher 400?

Nicole Caulfield said...

google "fisher 400 paper" and you'll get the link on where to buy it. Its from England and isn't sold here right now.

Sorry Chantell!!!! ;-)

Eilene said...

Thanks! I did find it & can't wait to try it! :-)